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Nov 12, 2010 03:02 am   Edited : Nov 12, 2010 03:15 am    
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bawal ba sa muslim na i-question ang koran? may parusa po ba to?

ano ba talaga ang dapat na parusa sa mga umalis sa islam ayun sa koran? pwede bang magsalita against islam ang mga dating muslim?
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xzsurf said:
bawal ba sa muslim na i-question ang koran? may parusa po ba to?


Sa papaanong pag-kuwestiyon ang sinasabi mo kapatid.


xzsurf said:
ano ba talaga ang dapat na parusa sa mga umalis sa islam ayun sa koran? pwede bang magsalita against islam ang mga dating muslim?


Wala pong parusa sa umaalis sa Quran at upang masagot ng higit na nakakalaam ang tanong mo ay nandito po ang sagot ng respetadong Iskolar.


Name of Questioner: A. H.
Title: Islam & Freedom of Belief

Question: Dear scholars, As-Salamu `alaykum. Non-Muslims often comment about Islam saying that most Muslims are Muslims because of the death penalty for apostasy. Many claim that there is inherent hypocrisy as converts from other religions are eagerly awaited for, while if a Muslim decides not to follow Islam he is put to death. Please clarify.

Date: 14/Feb/2007
Name of Counsellor: Ahmad Kutty
Topic: Apostasy



Answers:

Wa `alaykum As-Salamu wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuh.


In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear questioner, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His sake.

Islam, as a divine religion, pays great attention to the importance of conviction for those who embrace it. Therefore, it lays down the principle that there is no compulsion in religion.

Moreover, it is incorrect to say that everyone who leaves Islam is automatically killed. Thus, if an apostate causes no harm to the Muslim community and does not call for spreading hostility towards Islam, he is not to be punished, rather he is to be advised kindly and wisely to let him know the true image of Islam.

In his response to your question, Sheikh Ahmad Kutty, a senior lecturer and Islamic scholar at the Islamic Institute of Toronto, Ontario, Canada, states:



You have raised a very important question; it is something we need to address seriously, for it has been a source of much confusion not only among non-Muslims but also among Muslims in many quarters.

Like any Islamic issue, in order to find a satisfactory answer, we must study in a way that harmonizes the scripture and reason. This is the correct Qur’anic perspective that all believers must adopt in approaching any issue of religion. One of the most fundamental principles of the Qur’anic world view is that we must never allow ourselves to surrender our rationality and common sense in holding on to antiquated beliefs and practices, as was the case with the pagans in the pre-Islamic times. So let us reason about this in a manner that does justice to the sound teachings of Islam and our own sense of rationality and common sense.

Let us assume for a moment that most Muslims today (mind you there are over 1.5 billion Muslims out there) are simply holding on to their faith and failing to renounce it for fear of the death penalty. It looks absurd for anyone to hold such a view; it begs an answer for the following reasons:

1. Why did people embrace Islam in the early days when the faithful were subjected to all sorts of trials, tribulations, and persecutions? They were even forced to flee their homes and possessions in order to secure freedom of conscience to practice their religion of choice.

2. How do we explain the historical fact that in virtually all of the conquered territories such as Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Egypt, an enormous number of people entered Islam quite willingly even though they were allowed to remain as they were: Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, and so on?

3. The Spanish Inquisition instituted against the Muslims and the Jews is a historical fact. Why did many preferred to opt for expulsion or death instead of conversion to Christianity?

4. As the European historians have recorded, thousands and thousands of both Muslims and Jews were slaughtered by the Crusaders in the holy lands; the blood of the victims ran knee deep in the streets of the holy land. Why didn’t they choose to embrace Christianity in order to escape their miserable fate?

5. There are today over 1. 5 billion Muslims in the world coming as they are from diverse racial, ethnic, and religious backgrounds. We ought to ask ourselves: Why did such a huge mass of humanity embrace a faith which allegedly teaches such crude notions? Why did they forgo their allegedly superior beliefs and practices?

6. How do we explain the fact that Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world in spite of the horrendously negative image of Islam and Muslims that is often projected?

7. Newspapers in Great Britain report that an increasingly large number of men and women are converting to Islam in Great Britain in spite of the extremely negative publicity against Islam. The irony is that the majority of those who embrace Islam are women, despite the fact that the media project them as the most disadvantaged in Islam. Whose sword is driving them to join the fold of Islam?

8. Finally, those who allege that Islam was spread through the sword may do well to read an excellent study on the spread of Islam by a former Christian missionary to India and a late professor of Islamic studies at Aligar Muslim University, namely Thomas Arnold; his work is entitled The Preaching of Islam.

Now coming to the false notion that everyone who leaves Islam is automatically killed, I can assure you that this was certainly not the case in many cases. Even though the penalty for treason was the death penalty (as was the case in the Law of Moses as well), there was no targeting of people who simply chose to leave Islam without any implication of treason. To simply kill anyone who chooses to follow a religion other than Islam is against the fundamental teachings of the Qur’an. Freedom of conscience is a fundamental principle of the Qur’an that is clearly stated in many Qur'anic verses. I list just a few:

[Had your Lord willed, all the people on earth would have believed. So can you (Prophet) compel people to believe?] (Yunus 10: 99).

[Say, ‘Now the truth has come from your Lord: Let those who wish to believe in it do so, and let those who wish to reject it do so’] (Al-Kahf 17: 29).

[So (people) respond to your Lord before there comes a Day that cannot, against God’s will, be averted—you will have no refuge on that Day, and no possibility of denying (your sins). If they still turn away (remember that) We have not sent you (Prophet) to be their keeper: your duty is to deliver the message] (Ash-Shura 42: 47-48).

[There is no compulsion in religion: true guidance has become distinct from error, so whoever rejects false gods and believes in Allah has grasped the firmest hand-hold, one that will never break. Allah is all hearing and all knowing] (Al-Baqrah 2: 256).



Source: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Islamonline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503548996
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Nov 12, 2010 10:02 am    
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criticism po ang ibig kong sabihin..pwede bang maging kritiko ang isang muslim tungkol sa islam?


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1. Why did people embrace Islam in the early days when the faithful were subjected to all sorts of trials, tribulations, and persecutions? They were even forced to flee their homes and possessions in order to secure freedom of conscience to practice their religion of choice.

lahat ng nasabi dyan nagawa ng hudyo at kristiano, at kahit mga buddhist at ibang relihiyon..

2. How do we explain the historical fact that in virtually all of the conquered territories such as Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Egypt, an enormous number of people entered Islam quite willingly even though they were allowed to remain as they were: Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, and so on?

one of the trick of koran is men sexual fantasy like the martyrs will get a lot of servants in heaven and 72 wives..you can beat your wife ..men are made far superior than women..have sex with your slaves..those are rules and written not a moral dilemma anymore unlike jews / christian have moral dilemma of having more than 1 wife etc..that's the best way to build an army..get what the MEN wants...

3. The Spanish Inquisition instituted against the Muslims and the Jews is a historical fact. Why did many preferred to opt for expulsion or death instead of conversion to Christianity?

same answer like 1.. remember jose rizal ??

4. As the European historians have recorded, thousands and thousands of both Muslims and Jews were slaughtered by the Crusaders in the holy lands; the blood of the victims ran knee deep in the streets of the holy land. Why didn’t they choose to embrace Christianity in order to escape their miserable fate?

same answer as 1...how many successful crusades are there anyway?

5. There are today over 1. 5 billion Muslims in the world coming as they are from diverse racial, ethnic, and religious backgrounds. We ought to ask ourselves: Why did such a huge mass of humanity embrace a faith which allegedly teaches such crude notions? Why did they forgo their allegedly superior beliefs and practices?

same as 2....but i believe without the oil wealth middle east have..islam will not past a billion..since most of muslims are from third world country and easy to be manipulated by money at maraming papulasyon..(kahit sa pinas may naniniwala parin sa manananggal hanggang ngayon)

6. How do we explain the fact that Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world in spite of the horrendously negative image of Islam and Muslims that is often projected?

same as 5...awareness...since 9/11 we learn about islam..it's always on TV/media...and also lost faith to secularism...and also islamic countries pressuring apostates...

7. Newspapers in Great Britain report that an increasingly large number of men and women are converting to Islam in Great Britain in spite of the extremely negative publicity against Islam. The irony is that the majority of those who embrace Islam are women, despite the fact that the media project them as the most disadvantaged in Islam. Whose sword is driving them to join the fold of Islam?

money?

8. Finally, those who allege that Islam was spread through the sword may do well to read an excellent study on the spread of Islam by a former Christian missionary to India and a late professor of Islamic studies at Aligar Muslim University, namely Thomas Arnold; his work is entitled The Preaching of Islam.

sa aking palagay hindi lalaganap ang islam kung walang dahas sa middle east dahil wala syang patunay na sya ang propeta sa mga hudyo o kristyano..at wala rin syang himala mapakita sa mga pagano...syempre dahil establish na ang islam noon peaceful na ang paglaganap nito sa far east..


kuro kuro ko lang yung sagot ko kahit hindi naman ako tinatanong :).. para mag ka roon ng contrast lang...




tanong:

ano ba talaga ang makukuha ng mga martyrs sa paraiso?
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Brad sa nakikita ko sa inyo ay hindi po kayo nagtatanong kundi gusto lang ninyong tuligsain ang relihiyon namin, pero huwag kang mag-aalala hindi po ako makikipagtalo sa inyo sapagkat nandito kami upang ipaliwanag ang Islam at hindi para makipagdebate.

@Iyong tanong mo kung ano ang makukuha ng mga Martyrs sa paraiso, dapat iyong Martyr na nasa utak mo ay hindi iyong pag-ugnay sa mga terorista sapagkat ang mga terorista ay hindi po maituturing na Martyr.....ayaw ko man isipin pero alam ko na diyan uuwi ang tanong mong iyan.

Maraming salamat at kapayapaan sa ating lahat.
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sir, tnx 4 ur nice info about islam.....xcited me 2 read ur post more about islam.

ur right 2 reply d questions only and don't debate w/them.
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Nov 12, 2010 07:41 pm   Edited : Nov 12, 2010 07:46 pm    
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os sorry for answering the question in your answer..kasi naman ang haba..mas maganda siguro kung stick tayo sa islam at according to it teachings...nagtanong lang ako sa apostasy pero umabot pa sa crusades at western civilization..di ko alam tuloy kung nasusulat yun sa koran...



well what will martyrs will get in heaven?
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Nov 12, 2010 10:12 pm   Edited : Nov 12, 2010 10:15 pm    
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xzsurf said:
os sorry for answering the question in your answer..kasi naman ang haba..mas maganda siguro kung stick tayo sa islam at according to it teachings...nagtanong lang ako sa apostasy pero umabot pa sa crusades at western civilization..di ko alam tuloy kung nasusulat yun sa koran...


Kapatid kaya ko ipinaskil iyon sa inyo sapagkat pareho lang po ang tanong ninyo sa nagtanong sa Iskolar na ipinaskil ko, mas maalam po siya kaysa inyong lingkod at naisip ko lang po na baka mas higit pong makapagbigay liwanag sa inyo, pero dahil gusto mo akong sumagot ay ganito po ang aral sa Quran na aking nabasa.

Una ang sabi ng Allah subhana wa taalah na walang sapilitan sa pananampataya, ito ang malinaw na aral sa Islam.

2:256. Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things

Pangalawa ay ang karapatan ng tao kung ano ang kanyang napili.

10:99-100 . If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe! No soul can believe, except by the will of Allah, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand

18:29. Say, "The truth is from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong-doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!


Pangatlo ay maski nga iyong paulit-ulit na pagtanggap at pagtalikod sa Islam ay hindi parin hinahatulan ng kamatayan.

4:137. Those who believe, then reject faith, then believe (again) and (again) reject faith, and go on increasing in unbelief,- Allah will not forgive them nor guide them nor guide them on the way.

Kaya kapatid huwag mong isipin na ang pagtalikod sa Islam ay may kaparusahang kamatayan.


xzsurf said:well what will martyrs will get in heaven?


Tinatanong po kita sa unang post ko kung anong Martyr po ang tinutukoy ninyo iyon bang mga terorista po.

Marami kasi ang uri ng Martyr sa Islam, tulad ng nabanggit ng propheta Muhammad (pbuh) sa Hadith Bukhari.

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "While a man was going on a way, he saw a thorny branch and removed it from the way and Allah became pleased by his action and forgave him for that." Then the Prophet said, "Five are martyrs: One who dies of plague, one who dies of an abdominal disease, one who dies of drowning, one who is buried alive (and) dies and one who is killed in Allah's cause." (The Prophet further said, "If the people knew the reward for pronouncing the Adhan and for standing in the first row (in the congregational prayer) and found no other way to get it except by drawing lots they would do so, and if they knew the reward of offering the Zuhr prayer early (in its stated time), they would race for it and they knew the reward for 'Isha' and Fajr prayers in congregation, they would attend them even if they were to crawl') (Book #11, Hadith #624)

Ang Martyr na namatay sa laban.

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "The person who participates in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any sariya going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah's cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause." (Book #2, Hadith #35)

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Um Ar-Rubai'bint Al-Bara', the mother of Hartha bin Suraqa came to the Prophet and said, "O Allah's Prophet! Will you tell me about Hartha?" Hartha has been killed (i.e. martyred) on the day of Badr with an arrow thrown by an unidentified person. She added, "If he is in paradise, I will be patient; otherwise, I will weep bitterly for him." He said, "O mother of Hartha! There are Gardens in paradise and your son got the Firdausal-ala (i.e. the best place in paradise)." (Book #52, Hadith #64)


Nais ko rin ilatag sa inyo ang sinabi ng propheta na kung sino ang makapatay ng taong nasa pangangalaga ng Muslim (halimbawa ang mga kristiyanong nandito sa Saudi Arabia) ay ni hindi maamoy ang amoy ng paraiso.


Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr: The Prophet said, "Whoever killed a Mu'ahid (a person who is granted the pledge of protection by the Muslims) shall not smell the fragrance of paradise though its fragrance can be smelt at a distance of forty years (of traveling)." (Book #83, Hadith #49)


Kaya kung ang iniisip mo ay ang mga terorista ay hindi po sila makakapasok sa paraiso sapagkat pumapatay sila ng inosenteng tao, lalo na kung nasa pangangalaga ng Islam country.


Maraming salamat po at kapayapaan po sa ating lahat.



desertman said:
sir, tnx 4 ur nice info about islam.....xcited me 2 read ur post more about islam.

ur right 2 reply d questions only and don't debate w/them.


Maraming salamat kapatid at iyan nga po ang layunin namin ni brother Junputik na ipaalam lang ang aral ng Islam at hindi para makipagdebate sa paniniwala namin.

Kapayapaan din po sa inyo.
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no houris or servants for matryrs..or houris are for all muslims?
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searchman said:
Inuulit ko po na ang tinatalakay po natin dito ay ang aral ng Islam at kami ang magpaliwanag nito.

Hindi po kami nandito para makipagdebate kung sino ang tama o mali, kung sino ang Diyos namin at Diyos ninyo.

Kung ano ang nakasaad sa Quran ay naipaliwanag ko na sa inyo sa last post ko.

Maraming salamat at kapayapaan po sa ating lahat.


Maraming salamat din po! siguro naman ankop naman iyong usapin na ipinost ko sa thread na ito.

ang title ng thread na ito ay "Ating alamin ang Islam", sa makatuwid kung meron kaming gustong alamin, o gustong maliwanagan tungkol sa islam ay dito namin malalaman sa pamamagitan nga ng mga sumasagot na muslim sa thread na ito.

hindi rin po ako nakikipagdebate sa inyo. Gusto ko lang mabura sa isipan ko na ang "Allah na binabanggit sa Quran ay ang Dyablo na binabanggit sa Biblya" na ang aking naging basehan ay "Mandaraya" na KARAKTER ng Dyablo (at ito ang kanyang misyon - dayain ang tao para mailigaw sa tamang paglilingkod) at ang ilang mga talatang nanggaling mismo sa Quran tulad nung sa S8:43 na pandarayang ginawa ng Allah sa para palakasin ang loob ng mga mandirigma. at ang pangyayari sa s4:157. na pinalitan si Cristo ng kawangis nya sa para di siya mamatay.

Ito po ay hindi panunuligsa pero isang kaibigang muslim ang nagbukas nito sa aking isipan. nakakalungkot nga lang at uuwi na siya sa Davao. hindi na kami nakapagkwentuhan pa ng mahaba haba tungkol sa islam.

Malaki po sana ang maitutulong nyo upang mabura sa isipan ko at sa isipan na rin ng marami ang katanungang iyan. Subalit sa kabila ng pagtatanong ko dito, wala naman pong nalinaw sahalip pinangatwiranan lang.

sana po humaba pa ang ating kwentuhan ng lalo pa nating makilala ang islam.

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para doon sa nagtatanong na bakit daw ibaiba ang paniniwala ng kristyano samantalang iisa lang naman ang pinagbabasehan (biblia).

ang Biblia po kasi ay hindi isang bukas na aklat na ang ibig sabihin ay hindi lahat ng nakakabasa nito ay nakakarating sa pagka-unawa na siya rin namang dahilan kung bakit maraming sekta ng kristyano ang nagsisulputan. Di po siya tulad ng Quran na isang bukas na aklat na mauunawaan na lahat ng makakabasa nito.

pasensya na!
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no houris or servants for matryrs..or houris are for all muslims?



Chapter 52:
17 As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness,-

18 Enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire.

19 (To them will be said:) "Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds."

20 They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.

21 And those who believe and whose families follow them in Faith,- to them shall We join their families: Nor shall We deprive them (of the fruit) of aught of their works: (Yet) is each individual in pledge for his deeds.

22 And We shall bestow on them, of fruit and meat, anything they shall desire


Kapatid kung mapapansin mo ay makikita mo ang nasa verse 20 and 21 kung saan minarkahan ko upang mapag-aralan mong mabuti about sa tanong mo na iyan sa akin, lahat ng gugustuhin mo sa paraiso mo ay makakamtan mo ngunit sa tulad namin ay mas pipiliin namin na makasama ang pamilya namin at iyan ay malinaw diyan sa verse 21 mismo.

Siguro naman ay nabasa mo sa previous post ko kung sino ang tunay na na Martyr.

Salamat at kapayapaan sa ating lahat.
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searchman said:
Inuulit ko po na ang tinatalakay po natin dito ay ang aral ng Islam at kami ang magpaliwanag nito.

Hindi po kami nandito para makipagdebate kung sino ang tama o mali, kung sino ang Diyos namin at Diyos ninyo.

Kung ano ang nakasaad sa Quran ay naipaliwanag ko na sa inyo sa last post ko.

Maraming salamat at kapayapaan po sa ating lahat.


Maraming salamat din po! siguro naman ankop naman iyong usapin na ipinost ko sa thread na ito.

ang title ng thread na ito ay "Ating alamin ang Islam", sa makatuwid kung meron kaming gustong alamin, o gustong maliwanagan tungkol sa islam ay dito namin malalaman sa pamamagitan nga ng mga sumasagot na muslim sa thread na ito.

hindi rin po ako nakikipagdebate sa inyo. Gusto ko lang mabura sa isipan ko na ang "Allah na binabanggit sa Quran ay ang Dyablo na binabanggit sa Biblya" na ang aking naging basehan ay "Mandaraya" na KARAKTER ng Dyablo (at ito ang kanyang misyon - dayain ang tao para mailigaw sa tamang paglilingkod) at ang ilang mga talatang nanggaling mismo sa Quran tulad nung sa S8:43 na pandarayang ginawa ng Allah sa para palakasin ang loob ng mga mandirigma. at ang pangyayari sa s4:157. na pinalitan si Cristo ng kawangis nya sa para di siya mamatay.

Ito po ay hindi panunuligsa pero isang kaibigang muslim ang nagbukas nito sa aking isipan. nakakalungkot nga lang at uuwi na siya sa Davao. hindi na kami nakapagkwentuhan pa ng mahaba haba tungkol sa islam.

Malaki po sana ang maitutulong nyo upang mabura sa isipan ko at sa isipan na rin ng marami ang katanungang iyan. Subalit sa kabila ng pagtatanong ko dito, wala naman pong nalinaw sahalip pinangatwiranan lang.

sana po humaba pa ang ating kwentuhan ng lalo pa nating makilala ang islam.

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para doon sa nagtatanong na bakit daw ibaiba ang paniniwala ng kristyano samantalang iisa lang naman ang pinagbabasehan (biblia).

ang Biblia po kasi ay hindi isang bukas na aklat na ang ibig sabihin ay hindi lahat ng nakakabasa nito ay nakakarating sa pagka-unawa na siya rin namang dahilan kung bakit maraming sekta ng kristyano ang nagsisulputan. Di po siya tulad ng Quran na isang bukas na aklat na mauunawaan na lahat ng makakabasa nito.

pasensya na!


Allahu-Akbar. . .

Hindi ko po mapigilan ang aking sarili na hindi sumagot sa akin nabasa or sa inyong katanungan at eto po ang masasabi ko sa inyo na hindi nanggaling sa Qur'aan at ito po ang aming paniniwala or paniniwala ng mga Muslim.

Ang ALLAH po kaya tinawag na Allah ay Dahil nagpakilala siya sa Banal na Qur'aan, tulad ko po ako po ay si Jun Putik, kaya kahit saan tayo mapunta at tinawah ninyo si Jun Putik ay lilingon ako kapag narinig ko dahil nagpakilala po ako na Jun Putik na hindi po lamang dito sa digital pinoy kundi sa tunay na buhay ako po ay si Jun Putik pa rin.

Ngayon po. Masasabi po ba ninyo na kayo ay may Kasiguruhan at nakakasiguro na ang inyong sinasambang Diyos ay ang Tunay na Nag-iisang Diyos sa Kaitaasan. Kami pong mga Muslim, kahit na bata ay nakakasiguro at Kapag inyong Tinanong kung sino at Ano ang pangalan ng Nag-iisang Diyos ay sasagutin kayo ng There is no other God worth of Worship except ALLAH Alone.. Bakit ko po nasabing Nakasisiguro kami na ang ALLAH or ang Nag-iisang Diyos sa Kaitaasan ang aming sinasamba.

Dahil po ang aming sinasambang si Allah ay Hindi lamang Diyos ng mga Muslim kundi siya ring Diyos ng Lahat ng mga Propeta magmula kay Adan, Noah, ABraham, David Solomon, Eisah/Jesus (peace be upon them all) hanggang sa huling sugo na si Mohammad[Sallalahu-Aleyhi-wa-Sallam]. Kung inyo pong gugunitain ng Magdasal at Magpatirapa si Jesus(pbuh) ng gabing bago siya hulihin at lalu ng si Jesus (ayon sa Banal na Aklat ng mga Kristiyano) ay nakapako sa krus bago mamatay ay Nagdasal ng ganito sa ating wika "Diyos ko, Diyos Ko, Bakit mo ako Pinabayaan" or Eli, Eli, lama chabaktani. iyon pong Nag-iisang Diyos na Tinawag ni Jesus (pbuh) ay ang Nag-iisang Diyos na aming Sinasamba or Sinasamba ng mga Muslim.

Ngayon po ay ito ang inyong isipin. Kung Sakaling Tama po kayo ng paniniwala na ang Diyos ay Nagkatawang Tao. Kaming pong mga Muslim ay Mas NAKAKASIGURO pa rin sa Dahilang ang Kangyang PINAGMULAN bago siya nagkatawang tao ang AMING SINASAMBA, ang Nag-iisang Diyos sa Kaitaasan.

At kung sakali po namang pong Nagkamali kayo ng paniniwala at isa lamang nilalang ng Diyos ang inyong Sinasamba, Kaming mga MUSLIM na Sumasamba sa Nag-iisang Diyos sa Kaitaasan ang NAKAKASIGURO na ang ALLAH at Nag-iisang DIYOS sa Kaitaasan ang aming Sinasamba...

Kung baga sa Levis Jeans ay yung ORIG ang aming INAASAHAN at hindi gawa sa Bicutan or sa tabi-tabi lamang.

iyan lamang po at sana ay Patnubayan tayong lahat ng Nag-iisang Diyos ng tamang Liwanag upang ating matahak ang tamang Landas patungo sa Hardin ng Paraiso. AMEN

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“ASH-HADU ANLA ILAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASULU-ALLAH”.
“I bear witness that there is no deity (none truly to be worshipped) but, Allah, and I bear witness that Mohammad is the messenger of Allah.”

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naniniwala ba kayo sa mga scientific miracles sa koran..ayun kasi sa research Islam lang ang relihiyon na laging nagsasabi tungkol sa big bang theory..at bilog na mundo.. at rotation ng axis ng buwan, araw at mundo...ay nasusulat daw sa koran..

ito rin ba ang turo nyo sa inyong tipan? kung oo anu-ano po iyon?
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Dahil po ang aming sinasambang si Allah ay Hindi lamang Diyos ng mga Muslim kundi siya ring Diyos ng Lahat ng mga Propeta magmula kay Adan, Noah, ABraham, David Solomon, Eisah/Jesus (peace be upon them all) hanggang sa huling sugo na si Mohammad[Sallalahu-Aleyhi-wa-Sallam]. Kung inyo pong gugunitain ng Magdasal at Magpatirapa si Jesus(pbuh) ng gabing bago siya hulihin at lalu ng si Jesus (ayon sa Banal na Aklat ng mga Kristiyano) ay nakapako sa krus bago mamatay ay Nagdasal ng ganito sa ating wika "Diyos ko, Diyos Ko, Bakit mo ako Pinabayaan" or Eli, Eli, lama chabaktani. iyon pong Nag-iisang Diyos na Tinawag ni Jesus (pbuh) ay ang Nag-iisang Diyos na aming Sinasamba or Sinasamba ng mga Muslim.

Ngayon po ay ito ang inyong isipin. Kung Sakaling Tama po kayo ng paniniwala na ang Diyos ay Nagkatawang Tao. Kaming pong mga Muslim ay Mas NAKAKASIGURO pa rin sa Dahilang ang Kangyang PINAGMULAN bago siya nagkatawang tao ang AMING SINASAMBA, ang Nag-iisang Diyos sa Kaitaasan.

At kung sakali po namang pong Nagkamali kayo ng paniniwala at isa lamang nilalang ng Diyos ang inyong Sinasamba, Kaming mga MUSLIM na Sumasamba sa Nag-iisang Diyos sa Kaitaasan ang NAKAKASIGURO na ang ALLAH at Nag-iisang DIYOS sa Kaitaasan ang aming Sinasamba...

ang pagkilala at pagpapaniwala na ang Dios ay naging katawang tao ay isang pagpapaniwala na Banal ang Dugo nito. at dahil Banal ito dahil ang Dios/Allah lamang ang Banal, ito lamang ang makakahugas ng lahat ng kasalanan ng tao. Kaya importanteng paniniwala ito kasi ang paglilinis ng kasalanan ay sa pamamagitan ng dugo lamang na Banal. Ang dugo ng hayop ay hindi banal. Ito'y ginamit lamang symbolo para sa gagawin ng Dios - ang ibigay ang Kanyang Banal na Dugo at
Banal na Katawan - para ibayad sa lahat ng mga kasalanan ng tao.

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Ho(ly)J(ESUS for)l(ife)e(ternal) Holy Father, give us the spirit to understand Your words. Give us The Spirit to faithfully follow it. Lord come and reign! Free and save all Filipino brothers! Through Your Holy and Mighty Name JESUS we pray.Amen3X

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^tapos ka na father.. uwi na po kayo
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xzsurf said:
naniniwala ba kayo sa mga scientific miracles sa koran..ayun kasi sa research Islam lang ang relihiyon na laging nagsasabi tungkol sa big bang theory..at bilog na mundo.. at rotation ng axis ng buwan, araw at mundo...ay nasusulat daw sa koran..

ito rin ba ang turo nyo sa inyong tipan? kung oo anu-ano po iyon?


Kapatid mahabang pag-uusapan ang tungkol sa mga iyan, pero gusto kung irekomenda sa inyo ang sites na ito.

http://www.miraclesofthequran.com/index.php

Maraming salamat at kapayapaan po sa ating lahat.
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