ang ayaw ko lang po sa programa nila sa tv ay yung laging pangungutya sa ibang relihiyon. sana pag-aralan na lang nila ang bibliya at hwag ng pakialaman yung iba.

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If faith were rational, it wouldn't be - by definition - faith.
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tama ka kalieope..sana eh mga turo na lang nila ang sabihin nila sa programa nila..hindi ung pati sa iba eh tinatalakay nila..well ganun ang paraan nila eh para masabi na tama ang kanila pero kung ireresearch mo talaga gaya ng madalas nila sabihin dito sa forum...eh mali naman ang mga turo nila...

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Matthew 24:14

sana sir mervsville hindi ka ganun sa katoliko at protestante. hihihi. joke lang po.

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mervsville said:
tama ka kalieope..sana eh mga turo na lang nila ang sabihin nila sa programa nila..hindi ung pati sa iba eh tinatalakay nila..well ganun ang paraan nila eh para masabi na tama ang kanila pero kung ireresearch mo talaga gaya ng madalas nila sabihin dito sa forum...eh mali naman ang mga turo nila...

sa tingin mo ano ang ginagawa mo para palabasin na mali kami hehehe tignan mo muna ang sarili mo bago ka pumunta sa ibang bakod

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@dark, tamo po ba yung nai-post ni thegreatwanderer re: "The Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo"? If ever na merong nabago or nadagdag or tinanggal, anu-ano po iyon?

Salamat!

dark_horse said:

mervsville said:
tama ka kalieope..sana eh mga turo na lang nila ang sabihin nila sa programa nila..hindi ung pati sa iba eh tinatalakay nila..well ganun ang paraan nila eh para masabi na tama ang kanila pero kung ireresearch mo talaga gaya ng madalas nila sabihin dito sa forum...eh mali naman ang mga turo nila...

sa tingin mo ano ang ginagawa mo para palabasin na mali kami hehehe tignan mo muna ang sarili mo bago ka pumunta sa ibang bakod

yan ang hirap sa inyo eh personalan agad pag nailalabas ang mga mali sa inyo...

well sensya kana matagal ko ng tiningnan ang sarili ko..pero hindi naman sarili ko ang pinaguusapan dito eh..ang turo ninyo...

I am not a perfect person kung paanong hindi ka rin naman perfect pero ang pinag-uusapan nga eh ang religion nyo which is sa tingin ko eh mali nga...sa doktrina, pamamaraan at lalong lalo na sa pagkakapit sa buhay ng mga itinuturo nyo, hindi nagmamatch...

wala naman pupuntahan ang pag-uusap na ito kasi sa lahat ng religion sa inyo pinakasarado ang mga member but atleast nasabi ko ang alam ko tungkol sa inyo...

out..

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HoJle said:
Matthew 18:16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.

dark, ibig mo bang sabihin na ang Panginoon ay nagprejudice rin kasi ito sabi nya, oh!?

you just proven yourself that you are in darkness. get out from it bro! kadagatdagatang apoy na dulo nyan!

yung witness dyan galing sa isang kawan , yung case ng site last time around ibang ibang . wag kang mag fallacy ,ako naman ang magfafalacy so inihahalintulad mo ang sarili mo sa dyos hehehe.

redeemed said:
@dark, tamo po ba yung nai-post ni thegreatwanderer re: "The Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo"? If ever na merong nabago or nadagdag or tinanggal, anu-ano po iyon?

Salamat!

@ redeemed
yun ang mga doktrina baseline po, but lahat lahat naman tinatalakay depende na lang sa plot ng leksiyon na ginawa

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dark_horse said:

redeemed said:
@dark, tamo po ba yung nai-post ni thegreatwanderer re: "The Fundamental Beliefs of the Iglesia ni Cristo"? If ever na merong nabago or nadagdag or tinanggal, anu-ano po iyon?

Salamat!

@ redeemed
yun ang mga doktrina baseline po, but lahat lahat naman tinatalakay depende na lang sa plot ng leksiyon na ginawa

i see... salamat!

dark_horse said:

magsama kayo ng kabarkada mo mga sinungaling kayo hehehe
saka hindi deacon at deaconess ang tawag sa ministro kung sweldo ang sinasabi mo sa mga ministro hindi sweldo yun ito ay tulong dahil may pamilya rin sila na pinapakain at ang buong oras nila sa Iglesia nila nilalaan , so paano nila mapapakain ang pamilya nila kung walang tulong sa Iglesia

LMAO
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a man works for a company, spends more than 10hrs a day on it. the company gives him X so as to be able to feed his family
a minister serves the church, spends more than 10hrs a day on it. the church gives him X so as to be able to feed his family.
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its the same thing, you just dont want to call it as that. its a fix amount right? and the minister expects to receive it and the church is expected to give it?
its the same damn thing.

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JuanaTomasa said:
i doubt it... try giving P1 all the time, im sure if you dont get a visit from the gang, theyll give you the look everytime.
so cut the crap.

Sa palagay nyo kaya eh hindi magagalit ang Diyos kung limpak limpak ang kinikita mo tapos ang iyo namang inihahandog sa kanyang harapan eh PISO???

i dont know. you?
if P1 is what my heart dictates me to give then who are you to judge me? if god looks down on me because of that then it aint your business, its between me and god.
giving to church is not the only way to help. what if i might only give P1 to church but run an orphanage, a free medical clinic, and pays for 5 kids education using my millions?

so cut the crap, your church survives on member's "generous" donation. dont need rocket science to know that.

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INC members beat up Pentecostal preachers

Tuesday, October 2, 2007
What was supposed to be an enlightening religious debate in Tondo turned violent as members of the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) beat up three preachers from the Pentecostal Missionary Church of Christ (PMCC), the Manila Police District (MPD) said yesterday.
Police said some PMCC and INC members had gathered for a scheduled religious debate at the corner of Quiricada and Almeda streets.
According to the police, the violence started when INC minister Felix Mangulabnan allegedly grabbed a videocamera held by PMCC preacher Allen Alhambra, 34, who was taking footages of the debate. PMCC preachers Luz Esto, 49, and Rodolfo Catarroja, 50, joined in the struggle over the videocamera.
It was then that INC member Joseph Salombre and his companions joined the fray and beat up the PMCC preachers. Mangulabnan even reportedly hit Esto on the forehead with the videocamera before walking away.
Police officers arrested Salombre after the PMCC preachers identified him as among those who beat them up and stole the video equipment that belonged to their church.
For future religious debates, the MPD suggested to let cooler heads prevail.
“These debates should be done in public places like the plazas and they should avoid violence. They should appoint a moderator and clarify the rules of the debate if they should allow the video recording,” the police said. – Evelyn Macairan

Sa hindi sinasadyang pagkakataon, nakita ko ang word file na ito sa usb pen drive ng isang kaibigang taga Pentecostal nung may kinopya syang file galing sa akin. Kayo na po ang humusga kung totoo ito at ayoko ng tanungin ang kaibigan ko tungkol sa bagay na ito. Peace po sa mga INC

ang ayaw ko lang po sa programa nila sa tv ay yung laging pangungutya sa ibang relihiyon. sana pag-aralan na lang nila ang bibliya at hwag ng pakialaman yung iba.

KALEIOPE, don't expect na most of the time they will teach you good and sound consistent doctrine sa kanilang mga programs. kung oobserbahan mo ang programs nila, they use most of its time depending their doctrine and twist a little bit and bit to fit what they consider can defend their previous fallible doctrine. kaya nga to defend their doctrine that the name of their "church" is in the Bible they change the wordings in some English translations. like in Acts and Romans.

but kalieope, the Bible should be used to teach, rebuke and correct those who are not aligned to what the Bible is saying. kaya it should be used as it is purposely given by God to us.

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yung witness dyan galing sa isang kawan , yung case ng site last time around ibang ibang . wag kang mag fallacy ,ako naman ang magfafalacy so inihahalintulad mo ang sarili mo sa dyos hehehe.

ganun din yun bro. it only takes 2 to convict a murderer.

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yun ang mga doktrina baseline po, but lahat lahat naman tinatalakay depende na lang sa plot ng leksiyon na ginawa

God warns us of people like this. as it is written:
Ephesians 4:14"Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming. 15Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ. 16From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work."

and in:
James 1:6"But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. 7That man should not think he will receive anything from the Lord; 8he is a double-minded man, unstable in all he does."

mag-isip isip na sila habang di pa pagbabalik ni Lord JESUS at ang kadagatdagatang apoy!

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Ho(ly)J(ESUS for)l(ife)e(ternal)
Holy Father, give us the spirit to understand Your words. Give us The Spirit to faithfully follow it. Lord come and reign! Free and save all Filipino brothers! Through Your Holy and Mighty Name JESUS we pray.Ame3X

einresoft said:

INC members beat up Pentecostal preachers

Tuesday, October 2, 2007
What was supposed to be an enlightening religious debate in Tondo turned violent as members of the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) beat up three preachers from the Pentecostal Missionary Church of Christ (PMCC), the Manila Police District (MPD) said yesterday.
Police said some PMCC and INC members had gathered for a scheduled religious debate at the corner of Quiricada and Almeda streets.
According to the police, the violence started when INC minister Felix Mangulabnan allegedly grabbed a videocamera held by PMCC preacher Allen Alhambra, 34, who was taking footages of the debate. PMCC preachers Luz Esto, 49, and Rodolfo Catarroja, 50, joined in the struggle over the videocamera.
It was then that INC member Joseph Salombre and his companions joined the fray and beat up the PMCC preachers. Mangulabnan even reportedly hit Esto on the forehead with the videocamera before walking away.
Police officers arrested Salombre after the PMCC preachers identified him as among those who beat them up and stole the video equipment that belonged to their church.
For future religious debates, the MPD suggested to let cooler heads prevail.
“These debates should be done in public places like the plazas and they should avoid violence. They should appoint a moderator and clarify the rules of the debate if they should allow the video recording,” the police said. – Evelyn Macairan

Sa hindi sinasadyang pagkakataon, nakita ko ang word file na ito sa usb pen drive ng isang kaibigang taga Pentecostal nung may kinopya syang file galing sa akin. Kayo na po ang humusga kung totoo ito at ayoko ng tanungin ang kaibigan ko tungkol sa bagay na ito. Peace po sa mga INC

peace din sayo brotherhood
malamang bias kami ganun din ang friend mong pentecostal kaya sa tingin ko mahirap bigyan ng paliwanag ito unless nakita talaga ng mga mata natin

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mervsville said:
bakit kailangan pang malaman...tama ng naipakita ko sa bible na hindi naayon ang inyong paniwala na pagbibigay ng pera sa mga deacon at deaconess nyo.

hehehe hiding somethin'??? hmmm alam ko na kung saang grupo ka nabibilang...

kawawa mga LIGAW sa tsismis na kagaya mo.

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kalieope said:
ang ayaw ko lang po sa programa nila sa tv ay yung laging pangungutya sa ibang relihiyon. sana pag-aralan na lang nila ang bibliya at hwag ng pakialaman yung iba.

pangungutya? huh? baka ibang programa sa TV ang napanuod mo, igan? siguro dapat malaman mo ang ibig sabihin ng pangungutya sa PAGTATAMA...

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JuanaTomasa said:
i dont know. you?

di mo pala alam...read the bible, nandun ang sagot.

so its a salary? :P

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di po sir darkhorse sa INC po talaga. nawawalan po tuloy ako ng ganang manood. sana hinay hinay lang sa pagtatama kung ganun. pag astang mayabang kasi wala ng makikinig.

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If faith were rational, it wouldn't be - by definition - faith.
- Eat Pray Love by Elizabeth Gilbert -