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Apr 09, 2009 04:21 pm    
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any other examples of pseudoscience? (i don't care pero comment ko lang, its actually one word)

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Apr 11, 2009 01:31 pm    
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nick333 said:
Esoteric im not sure what u meant but merong link sa mga organs to other parts of the body, ewan ko Lang specifically sa feet, pero there's something called deferred pain.

Eto just wondering din.. In terms of the palmistry, Is there an explanation to why we develop wrinkles in our palms if they were made from scratch?


then show it... san yung links? is it proven scientifically?

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Apr 13, 2009 01:03 pm    
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i'd be happy to. except i was wrong about the name, its actually REFERRED PAIN not deferred. well, here it is:

Pain that is felt from a particular site but originates from another location is termed referred pain. Both sites are innervated by the same spinal nerve, and it is difficult for the brain to differentiate the point of origin. ... For example, an inflamed appendix in the right lower quadrant of the abdomen may have referred pain in the periumbilical area. It is useful to have knowledge of areas of referred pain for diagnostic purposes.

Quoted directly from my school textbook, Physical Examination and Health Assessment 4th Edition by Carolyn Jarvis. Published by Saunders, copyright 2004.

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Apr 15, 2009 10:50 am    
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nick333 said:
i'd be happy to. except i was wrong about the name, its actually REFERRED PAIN not deferred. well, here it is:

Pain that is felt from a particular site but originates from another location is termed referred pain. Both sites are innervated by the same spinal nerve, and it is difficult for the brain to differentiate the point of origin. ... For example, an inflamed appendix in the right lower quadrant of the abdomen may have referred pain in the periumbilical area. It is useful to have knowledge of areas of referred pain for diagnostic purposes.

Quoted directly from my school textbook, Physical Examination and Health Assessment 4th Edition by Carolyn Jarvis. Published by Saunders, copyright 2004.


Yep referred pain. Parang sa heart attack, kahit yung heart ang directly affected nararamdaman yung pain sa back or neck instead sa chest sa dahilang minsan ang CNS di niya mawari san nang gagaling ang pain.

sabi ko nga ang refloxology ay my soothing effect pero hindi ito yung actual na nagpapagaling.

under debate pa nga ito kung i consider na science or not.. pero karamihan nagsasabi na pseudo nga ito dahil di naman mapatunayan ang existence ng Qi energy at connection ng feet sa mga parte ng katawan natin.

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Apr 15, 2009 03:09 pm    
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esoteric08 said:
nick333 said:
i'd be happy to. except i was wrong about the name, its actually REFERRED PAIN not deferred. well, here it is:

Pain that is felt from a particular site but originates from another location is termed referred pain. Both sites are innervated by the same spinal nerve, and it is difficult for the brain to differentiate the point of origin. ... For example, an inflamed appendix in the right lower quadrant of the abdomen may have referred pain in the periumbilical area. It is useful to have knowledge of areas of referred pain for diagnostic purposes.

Quoted directly from my school textbook, Physical Examination and Health Assessment 4th Edition by Carolyn Jarvis. Published by Saunders, copyright 2004.


Yep referred pain. Parang sa heart attack, kahit yung heart ang directly affected nararamdaman yung pain sa back or neck instead sa chest sa dahilang minsan ang CNS di niya mawari san nang gagaling ang pain.

sabi ko nga ang refloxology ay my soothing effect pero hindi ito yung actual na nagpapagaling.

under debate pa nga ito kung i consider na science or not.. pero karamihan nagsasabi na pseudo nga ito dahil di naman mapatunayan ang existence ng Qi energy at connection ng feet sa mga parte ng katawan natin.


In nursing we study about different kinds of pain and one of these is referred pain. But do you know about phantom pain?

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Jul 02, 2009 03:20 pm    
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opo lam ko po phantom pain. Ano po ang makuwento niyo about dito?

Usually sa mga naputulan ng Limbs etc nangyayari ito. Nakakaramdam ng pain sa part ng limbs nila pero wala na nga silang limbs.

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Jul 02, 2009 07:52 pm   Edited : Jul 02, 2009 07:55 pm    
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salamat po sa information. binasa ko talaga lahat ang mga nasulat.

meron dun sa listahan ng mga pseudoscience na talagang ginagamit na ngayong paraan ng panggagamot. tapos marami namang nagsasabi na bumubuti ang kalagayan nila.

meron akong maibibigay, yung iridology. marami rami na ring pumupunta doon. meron din po akong nakitang libro tungkol sa quantum medicine. isang indian na taga india ang sumulat nun. si deepak chopra yata yun.

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Jul 06, 2009 10:03 am    
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see "Evidence of The crossing of the Red Sea" thread. :)

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Jul 06, 2009 12:36 pm    
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@ Kalieope, ang relaxing and pleasurable nature of massage has many medical benefits pero hindi yung ito ang nagpapagaling mismo.

Quantum medicine? pano naman daw? pano nila explain yun?
Yung sa Iridology, my scientific explaination na ba yung connection ng Iris sa mga lamang loob natin?

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Jul 06, 2009 08:05 pm    
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quantum medicine po ayun kay deepak chopra ay isang panggagamot ayon sa enerhiya. lahat daw po ng bagay ay may enerhiya. totoo naman po di ba? ang sabi nya pati daw po halaman at hayop. para pong pranic healing ang dating po eh. isa pa yang praninc healing di po ba, isang pseudoscience din.

kaya ko nga po nasabing pseudoscience ang iridology kasi parang wala naman pong connection yung iris eh. ayan o sabi ni wiki:

Iridology (also known as iridodiagnosis[1]) is an alternative medicine technique whose proponents believe that patterns, colors, and other characteristics of the iris can be examined to determine information about a patient's systemic health. Practitioners match their observations to iris charts which divide the iris into zones corresponding to specific parts of the human body. Iridologists see the eyes as "windows" into the body's state of health.

Iridologists use the charts to distinguish between healthy systems and organs in the body and those which are overactive, inflamed, or distressed. Iridologists believe this information may be used to demonstrate a patient's susceptibility towards certain illnesses, to reflect past medical problems, or to predict later consequences of health problems which may be developing.

As it is not a method of treatment but a diagnostic tool, its practitioners often study other branches of alternative medicine, such as naturopathy.[citation needed].

Iridology is not supported by any published studies and is considered pseudoscience by most medical practitioners and eye care professionals

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Jul 29, 2009 01:17 pm    
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yep kaya nga ang iridology ay pseudoscience...

sa quantum medicine na yan, pano ang pang gagamot ayon sa enerhiya?

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